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Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 20:01:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: Juergen Buchner <buchner@pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de> Subject: A quick Response (on the fly) To: nice-esg-libs@atlanta.twr.com Posted By Christine Mingins in Darmstadt ---------------------------------------- Firstly, absolultely no offence was taken by the inadvertent posting - it's a relief to see a spontaneous thought posted for a change! I agree that progress in the Library Committee has been slow. The reason is that I believe no real progress at all could be made, except from the basis of a [P]ELKS mutually agreeable to the three compiler vendors. This is a pragmatic, real-world issue, and no amount of 'technical' discussion can resolve it. However we are now on the verge of such an agreement, almost ready to put forward a KLS vintage '95, which provides a basis for real consensus on which we may continue our work. I'd also like to comment on a few of the points Paul make in his Manifesto: I don't believe we have had a problem with apathy on the Library Committee. There was one difficult vote, in Feb - March ( I don't have access to the archives) when many factors conspired to produce an unsatisfactory vote. Some of these were: * 2 companies retired from NICE, leaving their delegates unable to vote * One member was travelling and had difficulty keeping up contact. On the matter of the Voting and Membership rules, I have these comments: * The regulations in the NICE charter state that an amendment motion must attract the majority of the committee members' YES votes. * It is possible now to vote ABSTAIN, with the meaning being as Paul suggests. * I don't think threat of removal is necessary to properly motivate committee membership! * The Chair may currently allow non-members to post to the committee. In fact, I believe the significant movement towards consensus which is happening right now will produce a much more agreeable basis from which we can work more harmoniously. It is a properly founded spirit of cooperation, and not extra voting rules, which will condition our success! Christine ----------
